Comments on: Bakersfield Jam Downsize, Return To NBA D League, Hint Of Lakers Affiliation http://www.facenews.org/bakersfield-jam-downsize-return-to-nba-d-league-hint-of-lakers-affiliation/ mostly nonfiction and bakersfield news Sat, 30 Jan 2010 15:07:39 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Nick http://www.facenews.org/bakersfield-jam-downsize-return-to-nba-d-league-hint-of-lakers-affiliation/comment-page-1/#comment-11408 Nick Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:15:33 +0000 http://www.facenews.org/bakersfield-jam-downsize-return-to-nba-d-league-hint-of-lakers-affiliation/#comment-11408 Zombie Swish: I think even as a bare bones operation it's going to be tough. I'm not sure people want to go to Oildale to watch pro basketball. I will. But then, I bought into the idea of the NBA D League last season. And I agree, there are way more than 9,000 basketball fans in Kern County. Just look at hockey. Hardly anyone plays (tough to afford, poorly promoted locally) and the fans eventually bought into supporting a pro team. They literally came out of the woodwork. Basketball on the other hand is a part of almost every elementary school, junior high, high school and both colleges. And that doesn't count all the NBA lovers in Bakersfield. It's a matter of marketing to the people in a manner that's going to reach and motivate. I'm just going with the "something is better than nothing" approach and at the same time hope he's creating a worthwhile business model. Zombie Swish: I think even as a bare bones operation it’s going to be tough. I’m not sure people want to go to Oildale to watch pro basketball. I will. But then, I bought into the idea of the NBA D League last season.

And I agree, there are way more than 9,000 basketball fans in Kern County. Just look at hockey. Hardly anyone plays (tough to afford, poorly promoted locally) and the fans eventually bought into supporting a pro team. They literally came out of the woodwork.

Basketball on the other hand is a part of almost every elementary school, junior high, high school and both colleges. And that doesn’t count all the NBA lovers in Bakersfield. It’s a matter of marketing to the people in a manner that’s going to reach and motivate.

I’m just going with the “something is better than nothing” approach and at the same time hope he’s creating a worthwhile business model.

]]> By: Zombie Swish http://www.facenews.org/bakersfield-jam-downsize-return-to-nba-d-league-hint-of-lakers-affiliation/comment-page-1/#comment-11407 Zombie Swish Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:14:34 +0000 http://www.facenews.org/bakersfield-jam-downsize-return-to-nba-d-league-hint-of-lakers-affiliation/#comment-11407 See, I don't consider this "trying." Ellis has never devoted the resources necessary to actually promote the team -- instead, he's content with going with a completely bare-bones approach and then bitching when people don't show up. There are more than 9,000 basketball fans in Bakersfield; there just aren't that many "hardcore" fans, who will show up simply for the basketball. The old business adage holds: "You have to spend money to make money," just ask Jonathon Fleisig (or, on the other end of the spectrum, ask DG Elmore). Its great for Bakersfield to have a D-League team, but it would be even better if it was in the hands of an owner who actually cared, instead of a guy who's just trying to make a buck (and even doing that poorly). See, I don’t consider this “trying.” Ellis has never devoted the resources necessary to actually promote the team — instead, he’s content with going with a completely bare-bones approach and then bitching when people don’t show up. There are more than 9,000 basketball fans in Bakersfield; there just aren’t that many “hardcore” fans, who will show up simply for the basketball. The old business adage holds: “You have to spend money to make money,” just ask Jonathon Fleisig (or, on the other end of the spectrum, ask DG Elmore).
Its great for Bakersfield to have a D-League team, but it would be even better if it was in the hands of an owner who actually cared, instead of a guy who’s just trying to make a buck (and even doing that poorly).

]]> By: Nick http://www.facenews.org/bakersfield-jam-downsize-return-to-nba-d-league-hint-of-lakers-affiliation/comment-page-1/#comment-11394 Nick Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:58:41 +0000 http://www.facenews.org/bakersfield-jam-downsize-return-to-nba-d-league-hint-of-lakers-affiliation/#comment-11394 I'm skeptical, Zombie Swish. But maybe the long term goal is to be back in the Rabobank and to take baby steps on the way. I think it's being scaled back a little too much as far as a venue. But maybe it will work. At least they're trying. I'll give them that. And the players will be top notch. That's the exciting part. I’m skeptical, Zombie Swish. But maybe the long term goal is to be back in the Rabobank and to take baby steps on the way. I think it’s being scaled back a little too much as far as a venue. But maybe it will work.

At least they’re trying. I’ll give them that. And the players will be top notch. That’s the exciting part.

]]> By: Zombie Swish http://www.facenews.org/bakersfield-jam-downsize-return-to-nba-d-league-hint-of-lakers-affiliation/comment-page-1/#comment-11393 Zombie Swish Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:00:22 +0000 http://www.facenews.org/bakersfield-jam-downsize-return-to-nba-d-league-hint-of-lakers-affiliation/#comment-11393 Does anyone else read this and think that the question isn't "Will the Jam survive?"; that its more like "Will the Jam survive the season?" A 500 seat shed with a basketball floor? Methinks David Stern wasn't imagining that scenario when the D-League was created. Should provide great entertainment for Bakersfield -- not exciting basketball as much as unintentional comedy. Does anyone else read this and think that the question isn’t “Will the Jam survive?”; that its more like “Will the Jam survive the season?” A 500 seat shed with a basketball floor? Methinks David Stern wasn’t imagining that scenario when the D-League was created. Should provide great entertainment for Bakersfield — not exciting basketball as much as unintentional comedy.

]]> By: Nick http://www.facenews.org/bakersfield-jam-downsize-return-to-nba-d-league-hint-of-lakers-affiliation/comment-page-1/#comment-11392 Nick Sat, 20 Jun 2009 05:49:28 +0000 http://www.facenews.org/bakersfield-jam-downsize-return-to-nba-d-league-hint-of-lakers-affiliation/#comment-11392 I'm glad the team is back too. Let's hope for the best. I’m glad the team is back too. Let’s hope for the best.

]]> By: chingpea http://www.facenews.org/bakersfield-jam-downsize-return-to-nba-d-league-hint-of-lakers-affiliation/comment-page-1/#comment-11388 chingpea Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:04:41 +0000 http://www.facenews.org/bakersfield-jam-downsize-return-to-nba-d-league-hint-of-lakers-affiliation/#comment-11388 I think it's wonderful the Bakersfield Jam are back.... hopefully, stronger and with a better business plan. When they "folded" back in April, I never told my daughter and her 1st grade class who are such huge fans... so I'm glad I held back cuz they'll be extremely excited over everything. My daughter will be extremely excited to Swish again! It was good to hear Stan Ellis all giddy on the video above and on the air with ESPN 1230. I look forward to the upcoming season and checking out the Jam facility. Go JAM! I think it’s wonderful the Bakersfield Jam are back…. hopefully, stronger and with a better business plan. When they “folded” back in April, I never told my daughter and her 1st grade class who are such huge fans… so I’m glad I held back cuz they’ll be extremely excited over everything. My daughter will be extremely excited to Swish again!

It was good to hear Stan Ellis all giddy on the video above and on the air with ESPN 1230. I look forward to the upcoming season and checking out the Jam facility. Go JAM!

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